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Gadgets: Utility belt, smoke pelets, batarangs, tasergun, electrical batarang, explosive batanrang, bat grapple,cryo capsule, and miniature flamethrower...

Suit: His usual one

1) The Fear : Location = the Jungles of Africa

2) Sniper Wolf: Location = Alaska

3) Fatman: Location = Avengers' Mansion = He has to defuse 3 bombs in the process

4) Psychomantis: Location = Inside Majin Buu's mind

5) The Fury: Location = Danger Room, X-Mansion

6) Laughing Octopus: Location = The Big Shell Core 1

7) Revolver Ocelot = Location Hell's Kitchen, New york

8) Vamp = Location = Russia

how far does Batman go?

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I could see him having trouble with The Fear, especially with the invisible camo-gear. Otherwise, the only people I see Bats having trouble with would be Laughing Octopus, Vamp, & Psychomantis. I love Ocelot, but as long as Batman's wearing bulletproof gear, he'd most likely put a beatdown on Ocelot while Ocelot is reloading.

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@progenitor said:

I could see him having trouble with The Fear, especially with the invisible camo-gear. Otherwise, the only people I see Bats having trouble with would be Laughing Octopus, Vamp, & Psychomantis. I love Ocelot, but as long as Batman's wearing bulletproof gear, he'd most likely put a beatdown on Ocelot while Ocelot is reloading.

Wait is the current suit Batman is entirely bullet proof?

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@Lantern Prime said:

@progenitor said:

I could see him having trouble with The Fear, especially with the invisible camo-gear. Otherwise, the only people I see Bats having trouble with would be Laughing Octopus, Vamp, & Psychomantis. I love Ocelot, but as long as Batman's wearing bulletproof gear, he'd most likely put a beatdown on Ocelot while Ocelot is reloading.

Wait is the current suit Batman is entirely bullet proof?

I'm honestly not quite sure, although I assumed it was.

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Bats clears it.

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Too bad Raiden isn't on this list

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Bruce clears it.

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Not sure how he will be able to beat Psychomantis without the second controller slot.

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It would be toughh for Batman. But I can see him getting to Vamp and then getting owned from there....

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Bruce gets hit with the retarded tranquilizer and....

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I seriously don't see him getting past Round 2. Sniper Wolf is the deadliest marksman alive in the MGS universe, and the fact that it is Alaska really doesn't help Bruce's chances. Alaska is Wolf's backyard.

 Not to mention the big obvious factor - He'll have to get in close considering Batman doesn't use guns.

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I dont see how Batman can clear this without killing anyone

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@spiderbat87:

Thats why Morals are off...... Hes fighting for his life....

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@SlimJ87D said:

Not sure how he will be able to beat Psychomantis without the second controller slot.

There are a couple of other ways built into the game. Ways the worlds greatest detective will figure out faster than me as a kid.

@RainEffect said:

I seriously don't see him getting past Round 2. Sniper Wolf is the deadliest marksman alive in the MGS universe, and the fact that it is Alaska really doesn't help Bruce's chances. Alaska is Wolf's backyard. Not to mention the big obvious factor - He'll have to get in close considering Batman doesn't use guns.

He has explosive batarangs.

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@Void_Paladin said:

@RainEffect said:

I seriously don't see him getting past Round 2. Sniper Wolf is the deadliest marksman alive in the MGS universe, and the fact that it is Alaska really doesn't help Bruce's chances. Alaska is Wolf's backyard. Not to mention the big obvious factor - He'll have to get in close considering Batman doesn't use guns.

He has explosive batarangs.

You're telling me that Batman can throw a Batarang across a massive stretch of iceland with the wind blowing fiercely? She's called Sniper Wolf for a reason. She doesn't get in close.

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@RainEffect said:

@Void_Paladin said:

@RainEffect said:

I seriously don't see him getting past Round 2. Sniper Wolf is the deadliest marksman alive in the MGS universe, and the fact that it is Alaska really doesn't help Bruce's chances. Alaska is Wolf's backyard. Not to mention the big obvious factor - He'll have to get in close considering Batman doesn't use guns.

He has explosive batarangs.

You're telling me that Batman can throw a Batarang across a massive stretch of iceland with the wind blowing fiercely? She's called Sniper Wolf for a reason. She doesn't get in close.

In terms of stealth Batman>>>>Solid Snake and Sniper Wolf. He can get within throwing range without her spotting him.

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Batman has no way to keep down Vamp...

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@Decoy Elite said:

Batman has no way to keep down Vamp...

Enough cryo capsules will keep him on ice until Bruce can airlift him to Arkham. win by BFR

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@Decoy Elite said:

Batman has no way to keep down Vamp...

Enough cryo capsules will keep him on ice until Bruce can airlift him to Arkham. win by BFR

Is he even allowed to do something like that here?

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@Decoy Elite said:

@Void_Paladin said:

@Decoy Elite said:

Batman has no way to keep down Vamp...

Enough cryo capsules will keep him on ice until Bruce can airlift him to Arkham. win by BFR

Is he even allowed to do something like that here?

I don't see why not. It's the last round so it's not like he has another opponent waiting. However, If he can't then the best he can do is stalemate.

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@Void_Paladin: I'd say stalemate. :P

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@Void_Paladin:

I'd say Bats and Snake are equals in terms of stealth

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@Decoy Elite said:

Batman has no way to keep down Vamp...

Sure he does, he'll just beat him into unconsciousness

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@RainEffect said:

I seriously don't see him getting past Round 2. Sniper Wolf is the deadliest marksman alive in the MGS universe, and the fact that it is Alaska really doesn't help Bruce's chances. Alaska is Wolf's backyard. Not to mention the big obvious factor - He'll have to get in close considering Batman doesn't use guns.

There are marksmen in DCU that make Sniper Wolf look like she has down syndrome. Alaksa isn't a massive stretch of ice land either, there is plenty of terrain to close the distance.

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@Dex_Starr said:

@Decoy Elite said:

Batman has no way to keep down Vamp...

Sure he does, he'll just beat him into unconsciousness

Vamp's regen is crazy and getting close to him would be suicide for Bats.

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@Decoy Elite said:

@Dex_Starr said:

@Decoy Elite said:

Batman has no way to keep down Vamp...

Sure he does, he'll just beat him into unconsciousness

Vamp's regen is crazy and getting close to him would be suicide for Bats.

His regen isn't that great, in MGS2 Raiden put him down with a single bullet, and then proceeded to beat him 2 more times in the game, Snake put him down also. Vamp's physical stats aren't on par with Batman's either. I know he was able to run on water in the second game but that had nothing to do with speed, if it did then why was he able to sit on water before his boss fight? He was also shown wearing tech that let him run up walls. The only thing he has going for him is regeneration, his skill isn't in the same ballpark as Bats so he'd probably get wrecked up close. The only other thing he did was fight Raiden and MGS4 was such a cluster f*ck of inconsistency where Raiden was able to hold back a ship to having his hand pinned to his back with a knife...

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@Dex_Starr: His regen got an upgrade for MGS4, he basically was only able to be taken down after his nanomachines were gone. Said Nanomachines boosted his physical abilities to the point that he could take on Cyborg Raiden.

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@Decoy Elite said:

@Dex_Starr: His regen got an upgrade for MGS4, he basically was only able to be taken down after his nanomachines were gone. Said Nanomachines boosted his physical abilities to the point that he could take on Cyborg Raiden.

In MGS4 he was also temporary subdued when Snake shot him in the head. And in his first fight with Raiden he passed out from pain and blood loss when Raiden stabbed himself in the gut to get to Vamp. Point is he's very susceptible to KO. He was able to fight Raiden but outside of a few PIS related instances like holding back a ship Cyborg Raiden was never very impressive.

[although Rising is a different story, but since that's after MGS4 it's obvious he got massive upgrades]

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@Dex_Starr: Very well. *Shrug* You clearly know the games better than me.

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@Decoy Elite said:

@Dex_Starr: Very well. *Shrug* You clearly know the games better than me.

If you haven't checked it out yet you should check the Rising trailer that came out a few weeks ago. I'm not even sure if the game will be canon or not since at the end of MGS4 Raiden gets turned back into a human, unless he turned back into a cyborg after. But the level he's at in Rising is worlds above what he was in MGS4.

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No way in hell Batman beats Psychomantis... and dont say "he' ll just plug his controller in port two " sorry that only works in the game. He will never be able to hit him NEVER under any circumstances.... he dodged fully auto Famas bullets at point blank range... The gantlet ends with psychomantis

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@Enemybird said:

No way in hell Batman beats Psychomantis... and dont say "he' ll just plug his controller in port two " sorry that only works in the game. He will never be able to hit him NEVER under any circumstances.... he dodged fully auto Famas bullets at point blank range... The gantlet ends with psychomantis

I may have to agree with you here. I don't see anyway Batman can avoid telepathy.

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@Dex_Starr said:

@Decoy Elite said:

@Dex_Starr said:

@Decoy Elite said:

Batman has no way to keep down Vamp...

Sure he does, he'll just beat him into unconsciousness

Vamp's regen is crazy and getting close to him would be suicide for Bats.

His regen isn't that great, in MGS2 Raiden put him down with a single bullet, and then proceeded to beat him 2 more times in the game, Snake put him down also. Vamp's physical stats aren't on par with Batman's either. I know he was able to run on water in the second game but that had nothing to do with speed, if it did then why was he able to sit on water before his boss fight? He was also shown wearing tech that let him run up walls. The only thing he has going for him is regeneration, his skill isn't in the same ballpark as Bats so he'd probably get wrecked up close. The only other thing he did was fight Raiden and MGS4 was such a cluster f*ck of inconsistency where Raiden was able to hold back a ship to having his hand pinned to his back with a knife...

You're down playing Vamp and Sniper Wolf like they ain't shit. Sniper Wolf is a female version of Deadshot with a Rifle.

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@Lantern Prime said:

@Dex_Starr said:

@Decoy Elite said:

@Dex_Starr said:

@Decoy Elite said:

Batman has no way to keep down Vamp...

Sure he does, he'll just beat him into unconsciousness

Vamp's regen is crazy and getting close to him would be suicide for Bats.

His regen isn't that great, in MGS2 Raiden put him down with a single bullet, and then proceeded to beat him 2 more times in the game, Snake put him down also. Vamp's physical stats aren't on par with Batman's either. I know he was able to run on water in the second game but that had nothing to do with speed, if it did then why was he able to sit on water before his boss fight? He was also shown wearing tech that let him run up walls. The only thing he has going for him is regeneration, his skill isn't in the same ballpark as Bats so he'd probably get wrecked up close. The only other thing he did was fight Raiden and MGS4 was such a cluster f*ck of inconsistency where Raiden was able to hold back a ship to having his hand pinned to his back with a knife...

You're down playing Vamp and Sniper Wolf like they ain't shit. Sniper Wolf is a female version of Deadshot with a Rifle.

It isn't downplaying if everything that I said is true, which it is. Sniper Wofl is a female version of Deadshot...without the bullet timing reaction speed and not even 1/10th of the accuracy and marksmanship ability. Who's only feats are sniping Meryl and losing to Snake in a sniper fight...twice...

try again

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tough one, but i think he might pull it off.

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@Dex_Starr:

Yeah her Sniping in the climate and conditioning when she was firing at Snake and Meryl there is all I need to know about... Her Accuracy is on par based on that...

You forgot to mention Solid Snake is a Super Soldier and a weapons master.... .

So no you Try again...

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@Lantern Prime said:

@Dex_Starr:

Yeah her Sniping in the climate and conditioning when she was firing at Snake and Meryl there is all I need to know about... Her Accuracy is on par based on that...

You forgot to mention Solid Snake is a Super Soldier and a weapons master.... .

So no you Try again...

Any trained Sniper can fire in harsh climate conditions, it's what they're trained to do. Go google or youtube a marine sniper training video and see for yourself. Sniper Wolf has done nothing to suggest she's better than an army level sniper and neither has Snake.

Yes Solid Snake is a super solider...with no superhuman feats.. and a weapon master...with no weapon related feats to suggest he's any better than an army level combatant.

Checkmate. Just for future reference it may help if you actually research on a subject that you know little about, you may have a credible argument next time.

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@Dex_Starr:

You suck at debating.....

For one Captain America is a super soldier who has no special abilities.

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@Dex_Starr said:

@Lantern Prime said:

@Dex_Starr:

Yeah her Sniping in the climate and conditioning when she was firing at Snake and Meryl there is all I need to know about... Her Accuracy is on par based on that...

You forgot to mention Solid Snake is a Super Soldier and a weapons master.... .

So no you Try again...

Any trained Sniper can fire in harsh climate conditions, it's what they're trained to do. Go google or youtube a marine sniper training video and see for yourself. Sniper Wolf has done nothing to suggest she's better than an army level sniper and neither has Snake.

Yes Solid Snake is a super solider...with no superhuman feats.. and a weapon master...with no weapon related feats to suggest he's any better than an army level combatant.

Checkmate. Just for future reference it may help if you actually research on a subject that you know little about, you may have a credible argument next time.

You could also argue that solid snake has any worthy feats at all... Considering the fact that whenever he was the protagonist... It was disclosed at the end that they just allowed him to make it to the end "because they were just using him"... I.E... MGS (PAL Code Input), MGS2 (Tanker for photo slander), MGS4 (to destroy the patriots with Fox alive). The exception of course being Metal gear & metal gear 2 solid snake. But its hard to gauge those feats because of the level of graphics... Anyways Batman > Solid Snake

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Sniper Wolf is considered Foxhound's best shooter. Foxhound basically is like a Government Military operation unit design to create Super soldiers...

Shes a Product of it ........

Some Speed feats are self-explanatory and you'd have to be a idiot to ignore them.....

Vamp's reflexes, speed and reaction time are here for you to look at and judge how fast he is...

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@Enemybird:

I see what you're saying. But in every battle hes been in hes been in a fair arena going head to head with his adversaries.... So even though they were messin' with him, in the end they wanted to defeat him their selves.

I think Bats and Snake are equals to be honest....

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@Lantern Prime said:

Sniper Wolf is considered Foxhound's best shooter. Foxhound basically is like a Government Military operation unit design to create Super soldiers...

Shes a Product of it ........

Some Speed feats are self-explanatory and you'd have to be a idiot to ignore them.....

Vamp's reflexes, speed and reaction time are here for you to look at and judge how fast he is...

I don't care if she's the best Sniper in her group or her world, because she has absolutely no impressive feats.

That's funny because last time I checked, Vamp and Wolf weren't the same person. So I'm not sure why you're showing me this.

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@Lantern Prime: Are you sure that was the case? Better yet do you have any evidence? I'm sure your familiar with the reoccurring theme in the whole MGS Franchise... I like solid snake I adore the MGS Saga & even more-so I hate to admit that batman is better than him...But the dark knight has proved that he has real Skill he doesn't need a "pass" by his adversaries. So for Batman to beat Everyone who solid snake has is indeed possible... But As i stated before Batman cannot pass psycomantis unless he breaks the 4th wall that is :P

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@Enemybird: @Enemybird:

evidence is in the videogames... Villians don't really help him

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@Dex_Starr:

You said Vamp didn't have the necessary feats to back up his speed capabilities. It was a post you made awhile ago.

Look Sniper Wolf is the best sniper among a elite group of trained super soliders from a elite group of mercenaries .... Thats good enough for me to tell me shes on par with any elite sharpshooters. Shes among genetically enhanced soldiers and among them in Foxhound and is considered the best among them.

And laugh at what others think of me on here..... Thats child shit for real bro.

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@Lantern Prime said:

@Dex_Starr:

You said Vamp didn't have the necessary feats to back up his speed capabilities. It was a post you made awhile ago.

Look Sniper Wolf is the best sniper among a elite group of trained super soliders from a elite group of mercenaries .... Thats good enough for me to tell me shes on par with any elite sharpshooters. Shes among genetically enhanced soldiers and among them in Foxhound and is considered the best among them.

And laugh at what others think of me on here..... Thats child shit for real bro.

Being able to dodge and deflect bullets is something many street levelers can do. It's nothing out of the ordinary and doesn't give Vamp any advantages. It's a post I made a while ago and it's a post I still stand by.

She's the best sniper among HER group, which means absolutely nothing. She has no feats, and lost the only 2 fights she ever had. She isn't genetically enhanced either. There's no comparison to be made, she's no better than a standard marine level sniper. When she actually has feats, then you can make a comparison. [Although that's unlikely to happen since she's dead]

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@Lantern Prime said:

@Enemybird: @Enemybird:

evidence is in the videogames... Villians don't really help him

Well I've beaten MGS 1 2 3 and 4 and so far almost everything you've said has been overinflated hype and BS with nothing to back it up.

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@Lantern Prime said:

Wait is the current suit Batman is entirely bullet proof?

Not that I know of. I'm sure only certain parts (the breastplate, gauntlets, and cowl) are bulletproof. However, his whole costume now looks like armor, altogether. So, I could be wrong.

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